Comments on: Strands Offers Lifestreaming and Moral Dilemmas http://www.jennifervangrove.com/2008/08/23/strands-offers-lifestreaming-and-moral-dilemmas/ Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:03:05 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.1 hourly 1 By: Strands Lifestreaming Service with Tools for Noise Reduction and a Focus on Social Discovery | Profy | Internet news and commentary http://www.jennifervangrove.com/2008/08/23/strands-offers-lifestreaming-and-moral-dilemmas/comment-page-1/#comment-508 Strands Lifestreaming Service with Tools for Noise Reduction and a Focus on Social Discovery | Profy | Internet news and commentary Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:41:10 +0000 http://www.jennifervangrove.com/?p=218#comment-508 [...] you can both like and dislike items where on FriendFeed you can only like pieces of content. But as Jennifer Van Grove mentions, disliking is definitely a sensitive issue since it is done publicly here so people will probably [...] [...] you can both like and dislike items where on FriendFeed you can only like pieces of content. But as Jennifer Van Grove mentions, disliking is definitely a sensitive issue since it is done publicly here so people will probably [...]

]]> By: Jake McKee http://www.jennifervangrove.com/2008/08/23/strands-offers-lifestreaming-and-moral-dilemmas/comment-page-1/#comment-463 Jake McKee Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:46:32 +0000 http://www.jennifervangrove.com/?p=218#comment-463 @maringuy the "if you don’t' want it, don't use it" mantra has rarely had any real impact on changing behavior, perceptions, or opinions. Especially with those of non-social media nerd types. We've all been to a party with an odd group of people that made us feel uncomfortable and out of place. Maybe we should have expected such discomfort, but maybe we just honestly didn't know any better if we weren't part of that party's in-crowd. It's far too easy to chalk any potential problem up to the "you should know better" mindset, but how does anything really change beyond the core group if that's the approach?<br><br>Jenn, the issue you're raising is an interesting one. In the early(ish) days of Twitter, I remember a friend of mine getting genuinely irritated (I won't go so far as to say "mad") that I hadn't followed him. After all, he was following me. I'm sure we've all had similar stories at some point.<br><br>As more and more activites dissolve their online vs. offline differentiation, and as more and more tools allow me to voice my opinions, how does this affect our friendships? As it becomes easier for me to share my disdain for the Republican party via Twitter, for instance, do I risk losing clients or friends? When a friend asks me to digg something and it's clear that I don't, am I sending a "message" to them about our friendship status? <br><br>Let's not forget that while the social tools are new, social norms have existed and have been evolving for eons. People can have their feelings hurt in a wide range of situations... so who's to say that getting content "disliked" isn't one of those situations? <br><br>Of course, there are two discussions here really: What's happening now with the older crowd, and what's happening with youth who are being raised on these techs and social norms. At 34 (next week!), I might get upset about something that doesn't even register for someone 16 who has been raised on these technologies and social "concerns". <br><br>Any way you slice it, it's an interesting discussion! @maringuy the “if you don’t' want it, don't use it” mantra has rarely had any real impact on changing behavior, perceptions, or opinions. Especially with those of non-social media nerd types. We've all been to a party with an odd group of people that made us feel uncomfortable and out of place. Maybe we should have expected such discomfort, but maybe we just honestly didn't know any better if we weren't part of that party's in-crowd. It's far too easy to chalk any potential problem up to the “you should know better” mindset, but how does anything really change beyond the core group if that's the approach?

Jenn, the issue you're raising is an interesting one. In the early(ish) days of Twitter, I remember a friend of mine getting genuinely irritated (I won't go so far as to say “mad”) that I hadn't followed him. After all, he was following me. I'm sure we've all had similar stories at some point.

As more and more activites dissolve their online vs. offline differentiation, and as more and more tools allow me to voice my opinions, how does this affect our friendships? As it becomes easier for me to share my disdain for the Republican party via Twitter, for instance, do I risk losing clients or friends? When a friend asks me to digg something and it's clear that I don't, am I sending a “message” to them about our friendship status?

Let's not forget that while the social tools are new, social norms have existed and have been evolving for eons. People can have their feelings hurt in a wide range of situations… so who's to say that getting content “disliked” isn't one of those situations?

Of course, there are two discussions here really: What's happening now with the older crowd, and what's happening with youth who are being raised on these techs and social norms. At 34 (next week!), I might get upset about something that doesn't even register for someone 16 who has been raised on these technologies and social “concerns”.

Any way you slice it, it's an interesting discussion!

]]> By: Jennifer Van Grove http://www.jennifervangrove.com/2008/08/23/strands-offers-lifestreaming-and-moral-dilemmas/comment-page-1/#comment-462 Jennifer Van Grove Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:31:37 +0000 http://www.jennifervangrove.com/?p=218#comment-462 I completely agree with "it isn't quite clear how the user is to approach it." That's the whole issue I was having. A thumbs down icon is just that - iconic. I know what it means and what to do with it, but adding the word "dislike" to describe the action does add a new layer of context that some users, like myself, will consider before disliking any content. Plus, as you point it, it's all public! I completely agree with “it isn't quite clear how the user is to approach it.” That's the whole issue I was having. A thumbs down icon is just that – iconic. I know what it means and what to do with it, but adding the word “dislike” to describe the action does add a new layer of context that some users, like myself, will consider before disliking any content. Plus, as you point it, it's all public!

]]> By: KathleenLD http://www.jennifervangrove.com/2008/08/23/strands-offers-lifestreaming-and-moral-dilemmas/comment-page-1/#comment-461 KathleenLD Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:36:32 +0000 http://www.jennifervangrove.com/?p=218#comment-461 Because of the rec aspect of the site the thumbs up/down is necessary, but I think it needs to be tweaked. The thumbs concept can be perceived in many ways and it isn't quite clear how the user is to approach it. Even just using words instead of an icon, as in "show me more stuff like this" & "I don't want to see things like this. Strands needs to help us use their rev technology to Its full potential. ALSO, maybe just eliminate the public display so you can like or dislike anonymously. Because of the rec aspect of the site the thumbs up/down is necessary, but I think it needs to be tweaked. The thumbs concept can be perceived in many ways and it isn't quite clear how the user is to approach it. Even just using words instead of an icon, as in “show me more stuff like this” & “I don't want to see things like this. Strands needs to help us use their rev technology to Its full potential. ALSO, maybe just eliminate the public display so you can like or dislike anonymously.

]]> By: jherskowitz http://www.jennifervangrove.com/2008/08/23/strands-offers-lifestreaming-and-moral-dilemmas/comment-page-1/#comment-459 jherskowitz Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:52:04 +0000 http://www.jennifervangrove.com/?p=218#comment-459 Ooops, I just noticed that Drew beat me to it.... Ooops, I just noticed that Drew beat me to it….

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